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COIN
Paul Cannon wrote @ 18:50:17 @ 28th December 2011.

I believe this is a 17th century token of Micaell Alderson of Barnard Castle in County Durham: Obv: MICAELL.ALDERSON.IN (around) BARNARD CASTELL Rev: GOD.SAVE.THE.KING (around) a crown The reference to the token is Williamson, Durham W2. George Williamson, "Trade Tokens Issued in the Seventeenth Century, Vol 1 (1889) p203. Another different token by this issuer is on the Portable Antiquities Scheme database YORYM-9974D7.

Comment entered on record: NCL-CCF557 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Coin
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: North Yorkshire

MOUNT
Donald Mackreth wrote @ 09:37:49 @ 28th December 2011.
Deceptively like a very rare , if not unique, rosette, it is well suited to be attached to a vessel with a ring through the tube to form a handle. Who else would like to comment?

Comment entered on record: NARC-9BBD94 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Mount
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Northamptonshire

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 20:35:33 @ 23rd December 2011.

Portable antiquities scheme LON-311872 would appear to be the same seal. I believe the supporters of the coat of arms may be squirrels.

Comment entered on record: KENT-561BA6 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Kent

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 20:31:05 @ 23rd December 2011.

Portable antiquities scheme KENT-561BA6 would appear to be the same seal. I believe the supporters of the coat of arms are squirrels. From the Kent example the shield is marked with 'W&S'.

Comment entered on record: LON-311872 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Greater London Authority

SPOON
Chez wrote @ 19:29:59 @ 23rd December 2011.

Object shown in photo is actually a Brooch pin of medieval date. 'Identifying Metallic Small Finds', {Cuddeford M J.}

Comment entered on record: CAM-5E2D04 Find published
Object type: Spoon
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Cambridgeshire

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 18:06:22 @ 23rd December 2011.

Further to my earlier comment I can add that the seal definitely relates to the sugar beet industry in Klein Wanzlebener. A German colleague of mine said that this is an area in the former East Germany. It is even today famous for its sugar beet fields. My friend remembers the sugar beets on the road side by the action of the tractors. The correct reading of the seal comes from a German industrial archaeology site [ http://www.albert-gieseler.de/dampf_de/firmen0/firmadet2344.shtml ]. The founder of the company was Christian Rabbethge who died in 1902. The name of the company changed in 1885 from GIESECKE & RABBETHGE. Seed production started in 1925. The above website shows that the original factory was demolished 1993. In 1990 1 million tons of sugar beet were processed by the company.

Comment entered on record: SF-C8A566 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Modern
County of origin: Suffolk

MOUNT
Isaac Duffy wrote @ 15:48:22 @ 21st December 2011.

Magicman is right, it is part of I Victorian toilet flush, I found one and originally beleived it tobe Celtic, until my associates at the dunelme m.d.c. Corrected me.

Comment entered on record: NARC-2B0E41 Find published
Object type: Mount
Broad Period: Modern
County of origin: Northamptonshire

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 00:04:26 @ 19th December 2011.

I believe this to be a German sugar beet seed seal. Side 1 reads 'ORIGINAL'. Side 2 probably reads 'SCHUTZMARKE KL.WANZ/LEBENER ORI/GINAL RABBETHE & MESECKE'. Below three stars is an image of a long sugar beet. For the same seal see Bagseals at [http://ourpasthistory.com/Gallerya] :ref 1064

Comment entered on record: SF-C8A566 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Modern
County of origin: Suffolk

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 21:13:22 @ 18th December 2011.

Another seal of this type on the PAS database is SUSS-8C7E03 - this is a less well preserved example and the scratched numerals on the reverse are not as distinct as on the Surrey example.

Comment entered on record: SUR-CDF0E5 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Surrey

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 21:05:31 @ 18th December 2011.

Another seal of this type on the PAS database is SUR-CDF0E5 - this better example shows that the name is actually Pearse . This seal was found in Surrey. The reverse of the Surrey example has clear numerals but unfortunately the scratched numerals on this West Sussex example are indistinct.

Comment entered on record: SUSS-8C7E03 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: West Sussex

TOY
Stephen Pye wrote @ 11:55:27 @ 16th December 2011.

Some year's ago I found the same item as above, mine has a hole into the handle area. At the time it was thought to be a broken off riding crop handle.

Comment entered on record: LANCUM-B439E4 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Toy
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Lancashire

STRAP FITTING
Fabrizio Casprini wrote @ 12:49:40 @ 13th December 2011.

They are not pieces of a soldier belt but decorative elements of roman cavalry. These pieces can to be with two or four openings for the passage of straps or cross of straps.

Comment entered on record: LEIC-949F96 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Strap fitting
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Leicestershire

STRAP FITTING
Fabrizio Casprini wrote @ 20:44:18 @ 12th December 2011.

they are component of roman equipment cavalry

Comment entered on record: LEIC-949F96 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Strap fitting
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Leicestershire

HOOK
Tom Redmayne wrote @ 13:42:16 @ 12th December 2011.

This object is a vine eye, dating from the late 19th-early 20th century. It was hammered into a wall or fence of a garden, along with several others, and a wire was threaded through the loops to support climbing plants.

Comment entered on record: SWYOR-CB3B73 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Hook
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Doncaster

SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 20:16:35 @ 11th December 2011.

This would definitely appear to be a cloth (or bale seal) bearing the name of R. Tennant of Wakefield. The scratched number on the reverse is probably intended to be 402. These type of numbers are put on by hand and often have an angular appearance. Another seal with the same name and place is recorded on the UK Detector Finds Database ref:23905 [http://www.ukdfd.co.uk]. This seal is much neater and is clearly impressed with serif capitals around the seal between two concentric circles "R.TENNANT WAKEFIELD". The reverse has the scratched numeral 79.

Comment entered on record: SUSS-2570D3 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: West Sussex

MOUNT
Zbyszek wrote @ 21:46:30 @ 10th December 2011.

This is a typical part of carolingian sword-belt set. 9th c. See among others: E. Wamers, Die Macht des Silbers, Regensburg 2005, p. 131

Comment entered on record: IOW-970216 Find published
Object type: Mount
Broad Period: Early medieval
County of origin: Isle Of Wight

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 20:57:39 @ 8th December 2011.

I believe this is a Leeds cloth seal. The shield has three ‘5 pointed’ stars which form part of the Leeds Coat of Arms. In a fuller version of the arms there would have been a hanging fleece below them. There are several parallels to this form of arms below. Other Leeds cloth seals already recorded on the PAS database are DUR-AE5581; SWYOR-53E6B2; YORYM-D45BF4; LVPL-CFC2D7. The last of these is of the same type. More are recorded in the Bag Seal Gallery [http://ourpasthistory.com/Gallerya/] nos: 297; 298; 299; 300; 346 and 729 and further ones can be seen on the UK Detector Finds Database [http://www.ukdfd.co.uk] nos: 12585; 13777; 17879 and 31036. A feature of virtually all the Leeds cloth seals are pairs of scratched numbers on the reverse ‘blank’ side, one above the other. These were presumably added by hand after the cloth was measured and checked. There are often one or two horizontal lines scratched into the surface as well. The upper number contains up to four figures as with this example. The exact meaning of these larger numbers remains unclear. However the presence of fractions in some of the lower numbers strongly suggests that these represent the lengths of the cloths concerned. The lower number normally consists of just two figures (sometimes also with a fraction). Others have three figures but the third one is often smaller than the other two. This practice on other seals has been interpreted as indicating fractions. It may be that this seal can be read as 6389 over 242 where 24 ½ (yards) is intended. As has been commented these type of scratched numerals are usually very angular in appearance and can be easily misread. Egan, Lead Cloth Seals and Related Items in the British Museum, item 234 and Bag Seal no: 297 have the same style of marking, which are both 302 probably for 30 ½ (yards) .

Comment entered on record: LIN-448763 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Lincolnshire

CLOTH SEAL
Robert Webley wrote @ 19:43:31 @ 7th December 2011.

Please see HAMP-FC1A85 for another Surrey cloth seal recorded on this database

Comment entered on record: SUR-984FB4 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Surrey

FOB
Chez wrote @ 17:50:28 @ 7th December 2011.

Possibly a strap distributor of the early medieval period. Ref: 'From Viking To Crusader'

Comment entered on record: SUR-624841 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Fob
Broad Period: Iron age
County of origin: Surrey

SCOOP
DEL wrote @ 11:22:59 @ 7th December 2011.

The description states ( possible Roman date ) but there is doubt that this scoop is dates to the Roman period. Del

Comment entered on record: KENT-32AE88 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Scoop
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Kent

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 20:30:33 @ 6th December 2011.

I believe that this is an Augsburg seal. The central motif is an ornate 'A' with annulets either side. The other face has a pine cone which can just be made out. There are very many varieties but compare with Geoff Egan (1994) Lead Cloth Seals & Related Items in the British Museum, no: 310.

Comment entered on record: NARC-8CBB83 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Northamptonshire

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 22:23:59 @ 3rd December 2011.

Is it possible that this Leeds seal is later than suggested? Benjamin and Joshua Ross were woollen cloth manufacturers at Bramley, Leeds [Pigots Directory of Leeds, 1829]. They presumabely occupied Ross Mill at Bramley, Leeds, which was recorded in 1790 as housing a scribbling machine for the carding of wool [Textile History and Economic History: Essays in Honour of Miss Julia de Lacey Mann (1973), p256]. Like the majority of recorded Leeds seals of this date the reverse has scratched numerals. From the image it may be '904' over a scratched horizontal line. The exact meaning of these numerals is currently not understood. Typically the numbers are very angular looking as they are scratched by hand.

Comment entered on record: DUR-AE5581 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: North Yorkshire

BROOCH
Richard Gibson wrote @ 20:48:17 @ 1st December 2011.

This is a Hattatt 'Glastonbury' type brooch. See BH-D15814 for a correctedly curated and referenced record.

Comment entered on record: NCL-22C1F1 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Brooch
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Lincolnshire

UNIDENTIFIED OBJECT
Richard Gibson wrote @ 20:37:45 @ 1st December 2011.

I found a similar artefact to this from a Medieval occupation site. It was made in copper alloy rather than silver. See BH-D715C5. I'm surprised this one is dated so late and I think it should be reconsidered under the 1996 Treasure Act.

Comment entered on record: SUSS-EB2A66 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Unidentified object
Broad Period: Unknown
County of origin: West Sussex

JETTON
Robert Webley wrote @ 15:16:31 @ 1st December 2011.

HAMP-7963D3 now provides a closer parallel than that in the main published works; they are probably from the same dies and variants on Mitchiner 1719 (p. 485).

Comment entered on record: WILT-7B8348 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Jetton
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Wiltshire

BROOCH
Katie Hinds wrote @ 11:36:24 @ 1st December 2011.

Thank you so much for pointing this out! The record has now been updated.

Comment entered on record: WILT-9F8D36 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Brooch
Broad Period: Roman
County of origin: Wiltshire

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 23:22:02 @ 27th November 2011.

I believe this may be a seal of SHANN DRIVER & CO of Aire Street, Leeds who were a firm of woollen cloth manufacturers (Pigots Directory of Leeds, 1829) [This can be seen at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds29Dry.html] The other face has I think the scratched figures '68 over 42'. There is a scratched line in between both sets of numerals. The numbers are all very angular in appearance because of the difficulties of scribing curved lines into the lead. For similar seals with scratched angular numerals above and below a line, see SUR-CDF0E5 and NMS-59F5B6. Both of these have very similar 8s.

Comment entered on record: SWYOR-53E6B2 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Leeds

CLOTH SEAL
Paul Cannon wrote @ 17:49:14 @ 24th November 2011.

A drawing of another Guildford cloth seal is featured in "Leaden Token Telegraph" no: 24, March 2007. This can be seen at www.mernick.org.uk/leadtokens.

Comment entered on record: SUR-260B66 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Cloth seal
Broad Period: Post medieval
County of origin: Surrey

BROOCH
Donald Mackreth wrote @ 14:57:49 @ 21st November 2011.

Mackreth Penannular Type f1.c, none is as far as I know dated to the pre-conquest period. For f1.c, the distribution is seemingly the West Country.

Comment entered on record: GLO-264C72 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Brooch
Broad Period: Iron age
County of origin: North Somerset

ASSEMBLAGE
Jane Kershaw wrote @ 11:37:47 @ 21st November 2011.

It seems the items numbered in the pictures don't correspond with the list given here - is it possible to correct this?

Comment entered on record: YORYM-68FFE3 Find awaiting validation
Object type: Assemblage
Broad Period: Early medieval
County of origin: North Yorkshire

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