WMID-DFE6A2: Post Medieval coin: Probable copy of an 8 Reales of Charles III of Spain

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Unique ID: WMID-DFE6A2

Object type certainty: Certain
Workflow status: Published Find published

A Post medieval lead alloy (contemporary) imitation of an 8 Reales of Charles III of Spain (1759-1788), dated 1777. The 'coin' was probably produced as a trial piece for the forgery of these coins.

Diameter: 39.6 mm
Thickness: 3.1 mm
Weight: 28.4 g


During part of the reign of George III (1760-1820), Spanish American 8 Reales ('dollars') were countermarked and used as official currency in Britain owing to a dangerous shortage of local coin. This piece may have been a trial piece used during the forgery of 8 Reales during this period.

Find of note status

This is a find of note and has been designated: County / local importance

Subsequent actions

Subsequent action after recording: Returned to finder


Broad period: POST MEDIEVAL
Period from: POST MEDIEVAL
Date from: Circa AD 1770
Date to: Circa AD 1780

Dimensions and weight

Quantity: 1
Thickness: 3.1 mm
Weight: 28.4 g
Diameter: 39.6 mm

Discovery dates

Date(s) of discovery: Friday 18th April 2014

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Materials and construction

Primary material: Lead Alloy
Manufacture method: Struck or hammered
Completeness: Complete

Coin data (numismatics)

Denomination: 8 reales
Ruler/issuer: Charles III of Spain
Type: Spain: silver 8 reales of Charles III (Clemente and Cayon 11881-12137)
Obverse description: Bust facing right
Obverse inscription: CAROLVS III DEI GRATIA
Reverse description: Spanish arms between two pillars
Reverse inscription: HISPAN ET IND REX 8R / 1777
Initial mark: unclear
Die axis measurement: 12 o'clock
Degree of wear: Worn: fine

Coin references

No coin references available.

Spatial metadata

Region: West Midlands (European Region)
County or Unitary authority: Staffordshire (County)
District: Staffordshire Moorlands (District)
Parish or ward: Cheddleton (Civil Parish)

Spatial coordinates

4 Figure: SJ9553
Four figure Latitude: 53.07420692
Four figure longitude: -2.07608178
1:25K map: SJ9553
1:10K map: SJ95SE
Grid reference source: From finder
Unmasked grid reference accurate to a 1 metre square.

Discovery metadata

Method of discovery: Metal detector
Discovery circumstances: Found whilst searching with a metal detector

References cited

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Audit data

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Created: 7 years ago
Updated: 7 years ago

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